The following is an actual Facebook wall argument.  Notice that I’m the only one with any sound reason.  I don’t know why I attract these ignorant people.  I have no qualms about posting their names here, since they’re re-tards.  Please pronounce it reTARDS instead of REtards, like they do in The Hangover.

Ashley Horn Loves how the liberal mind works. u r a murderer if u kill animals but its a womans right to decide to kill a baby!! little confused dont u think!!

 Christa Schuck at 4:30pm June 16

it’s only that it’s a woman’s right to do what she chooses with her body. at that point it wouldn’t be a baby…just a collection of cells. but that’s another debate altogether. i myself would not get an abortion, but i think rape victims and poverty-stricken people who can’t afford a baby should have the right to choose. god knows we don’t need any more unloved kids in the world.

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 Christa Schuck at 5:11pm June 16

you’re not going to convince teenagers to not have sex just because they’re not ready to have a baby. that’s an extremely flawed and uneducated argument. it’s been proven that the whole “abstinence” argument pushed by the christian right is more likely to result in an unplanned pregnancy than practicing birth control. oh, and a “baby” doesn’t get a heartbeat til about six weeks. so by your logic abortion is totally cool up until that point, no?

Vicky Espo Whitington at 5:39pm June 16

Hi Crista, when you wrote, ‘oh, and a “baby” doesn’t get a heartbeat til about six weeks. so by your logic abortion is totally cool up until that point, no?’ I was inspired by this scripture…Jeremiah 1:5 is so cool because it says…’Before I formed you in the womb I knew you; before you were born I sanctified you and ordained you a prophet to the nations’…
Just a thought…;)

Tasha Kay Barch at 5:46pm June 16

its a life the moment of conception.. something can not grow that is not alive right!?!?! hmm anyway you look at it. i think that god knows what he’s doing even when its “unplanned”
abortion is murder.. period..

 Christa Schuck at 6:13pm June 16

You can’t argue based on religion. That completely negates your point. The bible is not something you can cite. And I believe the majority of women (not to mention the government) disagree with the “abortion is murder” tactic. And honestly I can’t take you seriously when you’re all, “omg?! babies!!! do u no what ur doing” verbage and poor … Read Moregrammar and religious basis on a political argument. And yes, I will call it a political argument, because like Ashley said, it’s my “liberal” point of view. When really it’s just my realistic and educated opinion supported by most of the country. Never anywhere in my point did I say God supports it. That’s totally moot. Hence the separation of CHURCH AND STATE.

Elaine Talley Ricker at 6:49pm June 16

Why can’t you cite scripture from the Bible? Everything you have said makes my heart hurt…..why in the world do you want to argue about something like a brand new life not really being a life until 6 weeks. I think something that has the power to give me morning sickness the day after it is conceived is very much alive. I think that poverty … Read Morestricken people who cannot afford a baby but get pregnant anyway shouldn’t be so careless, that doesn’t give them the right to decide if someone lives or dies, not only is adoption available but you can take your baby to any fire station or police station if you are in that situation. If you don’t believe that the Bible is a book that can be cited for any of life’s situations then please do not use His name. “God knows we need more unloved kids in the world”…….you disgust me. Vicky I love the scripture that you gave! And I completely agree with Tasha, both my babies were “unplanned” and they are the best things that have ever happened to me.

 Christa Schuck at 6:54pm June 16

You can’t cite the bible because it’s based on a specific group of people’s beliefs and not fact. Please don’t make me say “duh.”
The fact of the matter remains that women should have a choice with what happens with their bodies, regardless of whether the religious right wishes to strip us of that right. Abortion will happen whether it’s legal or not. Truth.
I love that you gave yourself the authority to determine who can and can’t use God’s name, though. Typical.

Update:

Ashley Horn at 7:20pm June 16

Wow!!! and christa absolutely we can put our basis on the bible!!! it is my political right to base any thoughts i have on the bible!! i am a free person and i have the ability to choose how and what i think and what i basew those beliefs on!!! my God is bigger than anything and anyonr who disagrees i pray for because they are the ones who will be … Read Morefooled someday!!! we all serve something and on that day when God decides he will let his power be known!! God bless!!! and yes it is typical for us to use Go just as u tie yourviews with obama!!!! and it is typical that someone so opposed to my views would be first to respond!! most of the liberal society wants peace with the countries but cant even get along with fellow americans!!!!hmmmmmm confused again!!!!!!

 Christa Schuck at 7:25pm June 16

Yes…you can base your BELIEFS on the bible. But not facts. And certainly not arguments. How can you possibly argue “well….God doesn’t want people to have an abortion!” in court? You can’t. Roe v. Wade stands, and always will. Who’s not getting along? Numbers say the majority of people agree with ME, and I’m the only person that’s remained … Read Morecalm in this debate and not personally attacking people with phrases such as “you disgust me” or “you’ll be fooled someday!” I’m not attacking anyone’s personal beliefs. I’m just saying that politically, you can’t back them up. My mind, my body, my choice. And my babies will be pro-choice too :o)

 Update:

Tasha Kay Barch at 7:31pm June 16

its sad what this world has come to. haha God will have his hands full come judgment day hahaha. . and at what point during this did anyone use the phrase “you disgust me, or you’ll be fooled one day????
one day EVERY KNEE WILL BOW AND EVERY TONGUE WILL CONFESS..! even the liberals.. amen!!

 Christa Schuck at 7:33pm June 16

Tasha….if you would READ the debate then you’d see.
I already have God and religion. And I’m liberal…imagine that. Religion is to give you freedom and meaning in your life, not hatred in your heart as so displayed here.

Tasha Kay Barch at 7:38pm June 16

i have no hate i just simply cant see how you can be a christian and belief that things liberals believe are okay!?
and I said liberals, never did i say Christa… :) and im glad u have god thats awesome..

 Christa Schuck at 7:41pm June 16

I’m not a Christian. There are other religions, and I belong to one of them.
And I think you mean “believe.”
And since I am liberal, it was inferred that I was included in that statement. At this point I think it’s just agreeing to completely disagree.

UPDATE:

Ashley Horn at 7:45pm June 16

Yes you are correct, I pray for my country every day. I have also remained calm because it was never a debate to begin with. It may not stand up in the physical court system but believe me it will stand up in the court of the Lord. You say the Bible is not fact? Well can you prove that? Is that not what the liberal society has come to agree on… Read More. That unless there is proof it is not a fact. Well can you prove that it is not real? Therefore your basis does not stand firm. Regardless, there are consequences and I will not argue my point any longer there is no need too. I am saddened for those who who do not know the truth!! But like the word of God says “For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life and there are few who find it.” matthew 7:14

 Christa Schuck at 7:48pm June 16

Hahaha, can you prove that it IS fact? That’s not a good argument.
And Ashley, please can it with the holier-than-thou stuff. I know your past and where you stand now.
But you can hardly post something as controversial as your status without expecting some pushback.

Ashley Horn at 8:09pm June 16

Yes I can I can post whatever I want. I am a free person In a free country and this is MY status!!! And yes you know my past thank God for the present!!! That is why I can post these things because of my past. The only way out is to repent and thank the Lord he brought me to that place!!! And the minute I claim to be hollier that thou, I will let … Read Moreyou know. Don’t put your words into my mouth!! I will keep standing up for the truth and pray for those lost. I do love you Christa this was never about you!!! Have a wonderful evening!!

 Christa Schuck at 8:14pm June 16

Ok. I never said you couldn’t post anything, obviously…I said you can’t post it without expecting pushback, two different things. But please do not judge me for my beliefs. I know where I stand with God. I know this is not about me; it’s about something much bigger. I did not put any words in your mouth. I know we disagree on many things. I just thought mistakenly I was free to express my opinion as well, on your public post. I hope you have a good night too.

Boom.  Done.

I’m smart.  You’re not.  Open a book.  Google some shit.  People, EDUCATE YOURSELF AND TAKE YOUR MEDS.  That’s the code to live by.